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Dear
Recipient[1] My recent
posting on this WEB page www.agecon.ksu.edu/risk
of the paper titled “If Crop Insurance is Working Why Do Farmers Need
Disaster Assistance?” generated a number of emails.
As a result I have made a few minor changes to the paper.
Line 8 in the tables was added to show the maximum traditional
disaster aid payment. In an
insurance setting the maximum payment is the liability or total dollars of
coverage. I hope my
postings are useful but it is not my purpose to cause controversy.
However, every once in a while I do post items that people feel
strongly about and this is one of those cases.
I do
appreciate the time required by these people to write.
I also assume if this is what they are thinking there are probably
a lot more people with similar views.
These writers gave me their okay to use their emails if I removed
their name. I tried to give
some indication of their current occupation but in some cases I had to
guess. I have also
included my response back to these emails.
I hope what other people are thinking is useful. Thanks to all
of the people that use this WEB page.
Thanks to those people who felt the issue was important enough to
email me. Art Barnaby Professor,
Agricultural Economist, Research and
Extension, Home of the Art Yours was the
best write up on Crop Insurance I have seen.
Good managers, farming productive land, don't get a very good deal
compared to hit or miss land like flood plains do they? Please include
catastrophic insurance data for your three tables, maybe that's a better
alternative. I really would
like your thoughts on the catastrophic level of insurance coverage and any
comparisons you have done with it. Thank you for
your fine work. Grower Dear Grower CAT is such a low level of coverage that even with traditional disaster aid the example corn farm can lose $117 below expected revenue before the there is a “floor” in the revenue. A zero yield combined with disaster aid and CAT is about $117 below expected revenue for the example corn farm. Figure 1 shows the results of CAT combined with traditional ad hoc disaster. CAT with a “free” premium provides very little
for the low risk farm. Except
for the $100 processing fee, the CAT program is a standing “disaster
program”. Because In Disaster aid is just “free” crop insurance.
Because the past disaster programs required a 35% yield loss to
trigger payments, it was a much better deal for high risk states.
ART Dear Art But your plan
is not serving the purpose of buying votes for the next election.
I did not study your worksheet in detail but yes there is
definitely a hole in the crop insurance and any disaster aid should be
phased in somewhere above that 35% figure and phased out as it reaches
100%. There should be
also a provision for other insurance to offset, as locally the guys who
had the by far best year in 2001 were the ones who received substantial
hail damage. Collecting MPCI,
hail insurance and now possibly disaster, they would be laughing all the
way to the bank. While I am
rambling, it's so hypocritical to hear our congressional people whine that
it was so difficult to go in every year and get the MLA (market loss
adjustment) when needed, but they seem perfectly content to bring up a
disaster bill when ever needed, again despite all the boasting they did on
how great the new crop insurance program was. I would have to
say the crop insurance program, as my concept of the farm bill is
assistance in the form of DP (direct payment) and then price support in
the form of CCP (counter cyclical payment).
Crop insurances purpose is for acts of God type of problems, part
of the problem is when prices are below breakevens and then they base the
insurance price on that and only pay on a percentage you easily see that
leads to a problem. But
farmers (I should say humans) are their own worst enemy because if we have
a good insurance price (compared to cash) do you think there just might be
a little fraud that happens? I
think the answer might lie in some form of what is already out there and
that is an all crop-whole farm gross revenue insurance that is
township-region (depending on size) based. Anything below the region
average, outside of obvious flood or hail, is looked at with a fine tooth
comb and the acceptable farming practices portion is enforced for once. I for one also
think that the entire gov't program should be a counter cyclical type of
program, why the heck does anyone need any welfare check at $5.00
wheat(not that its here to stay but the occasional year it gets in that
range). Ideally also if they
had an exceptional production year where the gross was enough to provide a
profitable year why should the gov't be in the welfare business? On the question
of a hole in the program(s), I have to answer that with another question
and that is, is that hole referring to a farmer losing money?
If it is then it is not the government’s role to make sure that
no farmer ever has a loss, maybe the hole needs to be reduced but based on
the previous assumptions it can't ever be eliminated. Thanks Farm Manager Dear Farm Manager Is that first 35% of loss a “hole” in crop insurance or a “hole” in the new farm program where farmers lose there counter cyclical payments cause by higher prices and fewer bushels to sell at the higher prices? I really don’t want to debate that argument because it is very political but the net result is there is a “hole” in the USDA safety net. Disaster aid would not guarantee profits. The losses in the tables are revenue shortfalls below the revenue expected for the crop. There is a large variation in costs between growers of the same crop. Therefore one could have two growers that achieve the expected revenue but one has a net income loss while the other has a profit. I defined the expected revenue for the corn example as the average yield times the new crop futures price of $2.32 plus the direct payment. At $2.32 there would be no expected counter cyclical payment. When I first worked on the Crop Revenue Coverage contract there were some people suggesting this would guarantee profits and others said CRC would guaranteed price. Neither is true because it guarantees revenue with a zero basis, and I think most people now understand that revenue is not the same as profit. One of the reasons the payment was broken between direct payment and counter cyclical payment is that the direct payment is considered non-trade distorting and therefore, does not count in the World Trade Organization (WTO) subsidy limits. WTO is also the reason farmers were not allowed to prove their yields for the direct payment. If growers had been allowed to prove yields for the direct payment then it would have been considered trade distorting and subject to WTO limits because the subsidy would have been tied to producing higher yields. The counter cyclical (CC) payment is considered trade
distorting but non-commodity specific.
If it had been considered commodity specific then it would have
been combined with the loan deficiency payments and would have increased
the odds of the Dear Art Art, perhaps
the question was phrased wrong. If
it were phrased as this: If the farmer's
are "working" crop insurance, why should the taxpayers have to
foot another disaster program? It
seems that this question is not the ones that some agricultural (and
perhaps political) leaders really want answered. The answer
below might be interpreted by some that agriculture should be considered
like a regulated public utility--and guaranteed a level of return.
The impact on returns of events this year is still quite low
compared to what was observed in most of the history of Ag Consultant Dear Ag Consultant It sure looks like we are going to have a disaster program. If we are going to have one, then is the past disaster aid program the best method? ART Dear Art Good question.
Some from the urban areas may wonder why not bag crop insurance and
just beef up the disaster assistance. Ag Consultant Dear Consultant I have hit a hot issue because I am getting emails on the WEB. I am getting it from both sides. Some say that we should not pay disaster aid, while others are getting after me for including the direct payment that farmers have already spent and my work makes things look too good. Some farmers are saying this hole is the fault of the new counter cyclical farm payment while others are saying it is the fault of the crop insurance program. The only thing I am sure of is that the first bushel of loss is not an insurable risk at premiums the market is willing to pay. Some urban areas may wonder why should there be any farm program. In seminars I have asked farmers "could you farm without the government"? What if public policy ending all agricultural subsidies, closed down USDA, eliminated extension service, the experiment stations, would the result be no farmers? Of course this would end my job and the experiment station would argue they are helping to improve technology so that future farmers will be even more productive. However, is it possible the private market would do that research and education? Normally farmers say no, they can not farm without
the government. But then I ask
if there was no government payment would somebody
plant After a little thought, they normally agree that
If public policy were to eliminate government agricultural programs there would be a major agricultural adjustment that would be on the scale of the 1980 farm crisis. I would expect elimination of the farm program would cause land values to fall by 50 percent and land rents would follow. No need to write any cards and letters on this because this is NOT going to happen. Public Policy makers are not going to take the political “heat” for that adjustment in the agricultural industry. However, the point is all of these government payments get bid into land values and cash rents. Only landowners benefit over the long run from farm payments. But it is a really good question to ask a group of farmers to get them to think about farm programs. ART Art, is this an echo of Earl Butz? Seriously, 20 plus years ago when I was at USDA
working on public policy options, it would have been hard for me to
imagine that we would be willing to spend the kinds of money that we are
on the various forms of disaster assistance including crop insurance. I don't know if it is good or bad other than my
suspicion is that we are hastening the kind of agricultural structure that
policymakers say they don't want. It is especially surprising to me that there is a
clamor for crop assistance since, due to hard working people like you;
farmers have come a long ways in understanding risk management.
The livestock side for disaster assistance is easier to
rationalize. Ag Consultant Dear Ag Consultant I checked the Butz comment with Flinchbaugh. His comment was “I know Earl Butz”, “I was a friend of Earl Butz” and “Barnaby is no Earl Butz”! I normally get “hammered” for being too liberal
because I am very pragmatic about spending money on agricultural programs.
Many pragmatic policy analysts assume politics require money be
spent on agriculture, therefore do as little damage to the market as
possible. Regardless, it is
good to recognize the reason the ART Dear Art I am responding to your question "If crop
insurance is working, then why do we need a disaster payment
(program)?" First of all, I supervise crop insurance and
similar related services for an ag lender in the I thought in 1988 or thereabouts, when the first
threat of no disaster payments unless you bought crop insurance, was made,
that the government renege on enforcing that concept was just awful, and
made us look very dumb as crop agents. They have done it a couple times since.
And they're doing it again. The
irony of it all is that DP (disaster payment) recipients can get away with
buying CAT coverage, which fails to hold the safety net at the same level
where the disaster measurement kicks in - 65% of normal.
So, they are setting people up for future disasters.
For agents selling insurance, CAT's don't pay much commission
either. Politically, it would be very dangerous to enforce
the threat of having no disaster relief.
Farming is enough of a risk, and enough of a challenge to
completely through our You and I enjoy cheap food, compliments of the
farm program, which helps keep the cash flows of agriculture in the black
- a little bit anyway. Absent
this flow of government money, we could be facing higher food costs, due
to the interruptions in the supply and delivery of the raw product.
Over production and low prices would otherwise be answered by non
productive land being left out of production, and the farmers left would
only operate what was easy to get to, and productive in the first place.
Another mega trend that would accelerate would be the vertical
integration of larger market players who would eventually control critical
supplies when short, and drive costs (not necessarily commodity prices)
higher for consumers. So, our government wants nothing to do with mass
exodus of family farmers. And
double protection via crop insurance and disaster payments appears to be
one way to prevent that. It
makes those of us who sell insurance very angry.
Pending legislation needs to continue to reward those that were
pro-active enough to participate in the cost of risk management by
purchasing crop insurance. In
fact this is a must. Without
it, we lose a lot of momentum. Please pass along our frustration over the way
this is handled by government. While
I think I understand the logic, it still is grossly unfair. Ag Lender Dear Ag Lender I think one can design disaster programs, if there is going to be one anyway, that does less damage to crop insurance. I have been providing input to the NCGA on such a policy. It is their policy and I will leave it to them when and if they release it. I don’t agree that we would have higher food prices without government payments. Most of the cost of a loaf of bread is the processing, transportation, marketing, etc. and very little of the cost is a bushel of wheat. No government subsidy would only slightly reduce planting acres with only a “small” increase in grain prices. The point is all of these government payments get bid into land values and cash rents. With no government subsidies, land value and cash rents would fall. A decline of 50% in land values would not be surprising. See my response above on this same issue. ART [1]
Prepared by
G. A. (Art) Barnaby, Jr., Professor, Department of Agricultural
Economics, K-State Research and Extension, Kansas State University,
Manhattan, KS 66506, September 23, 2002, phone 785-532-1515, e-mail
– abarnaby@agecon.ksu.edu |
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